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cliff. joining me is democratic congressman chris van hollen, on the house budget thank you so much me. >> tamron, great to be with you. >> congratulations to you and your party. so many victories to celebrate. wh's the around the corner and first read says we have a status quo result. what do you make of that? >> well, look. the president for the last four years has said he's willing to meet republicans halfway. he's willing to reach genuine compromise but for four years republicans in the house of representatives and in the senate said their number one priority has been to defeat the president. tried to block him at every tn so the question is what lessons will republicans learn from last night? as you discussed, there's some that say we have to become more moderate and others trying to double down on the right wing tea party message. if we compromise, they have to meet the president halfway and the president was very clear in the campaign on the fiscal cliff. he saysake additional cuts as
cliff. joining me is democratic congressman chris van hollen, on the house budget thank you so much me. >> tamron, great to be with you. >> congratulations to you and your party. so many victories to celebrate. wh's the around the corner and first read says we have a status quo result. what do you make of that? >> well, look. the president for the last four years has said he's willing to meet republicans halfway. he's willing to reach genuine compromise but for four years...
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. >> stephen: oh, yeah, the fiscal cliff not to be confuse withed with the financial glory hole. unless congress comes up with a deficit reduction deal on january 1 there will be a trillion dollars in automatic spending cuts and the bush tax cuts expire which the congressional budget office says together could cause another recession. our only hope is that democrats and republicans in congress work together to find a compromise on tax cuts. in other words, we're all going to die. [ laughter ] now last week the democrats made the first move until this game fiscal chicken. >> the democratically-controlled senate passed a democratic bill renewing the tax cuts but only for people earning less than $250,000. >> the senate has approved a democratic tax plan that includes higher rates for high earners. >> stephen: wait, a second did they say the democrats passed a democratic plan? that can't be right. wait a second is this some kind of dream? let me check my totem. hold on one second. it's real evidently. evidently it's real. the problem is, house republicans are not going to vote for t
. >> stephen: oh, yeah, the fiscal cliff not to be confuse withed with the financial glory hole. unless congress comes up with a deficit reduction deal on january 1 there will be a trillion dollars in automatic spending cuts and the bush tax cuts expire which the congressional budget office says together could cause another recession. our only hope is that democrats and republicans in congress work together to find a compromise on tax cuts. in other words, we're all going to die. [...
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there's also a series of spending cuts that will also be triggered by the fiscal cliff. $1.2 trillion in sequestration will kick in beginning january 2nd. next year alone, $109 billion will be slashed. half from the defense budget and half from nondefense spending. the so-called doc fix would also go away, reducing medicare payments to doctors by 27%. and finally, unemployment benefits will run out for more than 2 million americans who have lost their jobs. benefits will only be available for up to 26 weeks, a drastic reduction from the 73 weeks available to some out-of-work americans. i want to go to sam stein, but first, dr. sachs, if we go over the cliff, it is the poor americans who will be hit the hardest, correct? >> well, there are parts of that where the poor will be hit the hardest. but if we make a deal right now of the kind that's being talked about, it's going to gut the federal budget for a decade to come. so we're on the brink either of these difficulties right now, which are real, or making terrible decisions that are going to lock us into a situation that we absolutely
there's also a series of spending cuts that will also be triggered by the fiscal cliff. $1.2 trillion in sequestration will kick in beginning january 2nd. next year alone, $109 billion will be slashed. half from the defense budget and half from nondefense spending. the so-called doc fix would also go away, reducing medicare payments to doctors by 27%. and finally, unemployment benefits will run out for more than 2 million americans who have lost their jobs. benefits will only be available for...
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cutting through the clutter of the fiscal cliff and 2016, yes 2016, with a.b. stoddard of the hill, "the washington post," "time" magazine's michael crowley and jessica yellen. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." we still don't know if a deal is in the works or out of the question. mitch mcconnell promised aen update as soon as he had any news to make. that could happen when the senate convenes a rare sunday session of congress. looking to dominate his side of the story while leaders wrangle on the details, president obama made his first sunday show appearance in three years, sitting down with nbc's david gregory this morning to talk about the fiscal cliff. >> i'm arguing for maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal left wing agenda. that used to be considered a republican mainstream agenda. >> joining me senator olympia sn snowe of maine. let me start with that. it does seem sort of counter intuitive to have republicans wanting to fight for tax hikes for no one and in that fight, being willi
cutting through the clutter of the fiscal cliff and 2016, yes 2016, with a.b. stoddard of the hill, "the washington post," "time" magazine's michael crowley and jessica yellen. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." we still don't know if a deal is in the works or out of the question. mitch mcconnell promised aen update as soon as he had any news to make. that could happen when the senate convenes a rare sunday session of congress. looking to dominate his...
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but that's just one part of the fiscal cliff debate. the other side of this, the massive spending cuts that have now educators ringing the alarm. they warn of increased class sizes, the elimination of after-school and summer school programs, libraries could close, all this as the u.s. tries to close an achievement gap. joining me now to continue our education nation conversation, world-renowned educator dr. steve perry, also host of tv one's "save my son." steve, it's great to have you here. the secretary of education, arne duncan, has said that 9 million students would be affected by the cuts including nearly 2 million that are already living in this country in poverty. when we talk about special education needs for the kids of our country, we're essentially about to take away resources from the students that need it most. however, we're not talking enough about that. >> one of the reasons why there's even a conversation about cuts is not so much because there's less money coming in, it's because of so much money going out. where we sp
but that's just one part of the fiscal cliff debate. the other side of this, the massive spending cuts that have now educators ringing the alarm. they warn of increased class sizes, the elimination of after-school and summer school programs, libraries could close, all this as the u.s. tries to close an achievement gap. joining me now to continue our education nation conversation, world-renowned educator dr. steve perry, also host of tv one's "save my son." steve, it's great to have...
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this push to extend only the middle class cuts picks a fight over the fiscal cliff with all the tax cuts currently set to expire at the end of this year. and clearly aware of the optic, the president made the announcement this afternoon surrounded by workers and families who would benefit directly if those rates were extended. >> i'm not proposing anything radical here. i just believe that anybody making over $250,000 a year should go back to the income tax rates we were paying under bill clinton. back when our economy created nearly 23 million jobs, the biggest budget surplus in history and plenty of millionaires to boot. >> the president naturally predicted the response of one multimillionaire as he smacked down the republicans' cry that all the tax cuts must be extended.y ied it their way. it didn't work. the wealthy got wealthier. but most americans struggled. so we don't need more top down economics. we tried that theory. we've seen what happens. >> speaking of which, mitt romney was busy enjoying the rarefied airs in aspen, colorado. he did respond to the move in a radio sper view
this push to extend only the middle class cuts picks a fight over the fiscal cliff with all the tax cuts currently set to expire at the end of this year. and clearly aware of the optic, the president made the announcement this afternoon surrounded by workers and families who would benefit directly if those rates were extended. >> i'm not proposing anything radical here. i just believe that anybody making over $250,000 a year should go back to the income tax rates we were paying under bill...
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the up coming december 31st deadline has been called anything from that fiscal cliff to that fiscal slope. liberals are saying to that austerity bomb that progressive people don't like at paul. former senator allen simpson proposed a plan to get the united states financial house in order that some say was our best shot at solvency. senator simpson, it's always an honor. politics, i know you understand the irony of politics, it makes strange bedfellows. i want to try something by you. the president wants a deal. the president would obviously like to include something on revenues. the conservative may not want to go along with that. the best push is coming from people i don't normally side with like tom donahue of the u.s. chamber of commerce because he's warning if the congress screws around with this thing, the whole world is going to be watching us screw it up again and it's going to hurt the economy no matter who is in charge, it will hurt everybody, and we better darn well have a deal. i think they're the strongest push, better than the progressives, in get a deal. your thoughts? >> i
the up coming december 31st deadline has been called anything from that fiscal cliff to that fiscal slope. liberals are saying to that austerity bomb that progressive people don't like at paul. former senator allen simpson proposed a plan to get the united states financial house in order that some say was our best shot at solvency. senator simpson, it's always an honor. politics, i know you understand the irony of politics, it makes strange bedfellows. i want to try something by you. the...
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thank you. >> thank you. >>> are retail sales diving off the fiscal cliff? we'll talk about how the tax cut debate is impacting the recent christmas shopping economy. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost.. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> senator mike crapo is apologizing for his drunk driving arrest. he said, quoetd, i'm deeply sorry for the actions that resulted in this circumstance. i made a mistake for which i apologi
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interesting to see -- >> i know you have to go, the fiscal cliff -- the fiscal cliff wants to cut money from mental health services. >> indeed. mr. michael nutter of philadelphia, we appreciate it. >>> let's shift back to the fiscal cliff and the art of the possible with one of the lawmakers that will have to pass a vote if a deal is consummated, kay bailey hutchison, member of the appropriations committee and republican from texas, she joins me now. thanks so much for being on the program. >> thank you, luke. >> so we know now the ball is in the senate's court, emphasis is now on harry reid and mitch mcconnell. seems the house is not in session. johnny isakson, your colleague from georgia said congress should pass the $250,000 and below deal because that's what's going to happen afterwards. do you think that should happen? >> i do not. i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that. however, i talked to some of my democratic colleagues and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think
interesting to see -- >> i know you have to go, the fiscal cliff -- the fiscal cliff wants to cut money from mental health services. >> indeed. mr. michael nutter of philadelphia, we appreciate it. >>> let's shift back to the fiscal cliff and the art of the possible with one of the lawmakers that will have to pass a vote if a deal is consummated, kay bailey hutchison, member of the appropriations committee and republican from texas, she joins me now. thanks so much for...
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if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids were behaving the way these congress people are, they would all be in time-out. if it was the private sector, they'd all be fired. there's absolutely no excuse. the only solution lies with us, the american people, and with us the voters demanding that they start working together and actually coming up with something. we cannot continue having these spectacles every few months. it's like making sausage. >> can we talk about the optics of this, maria? there are many saying this is a republican and democratic problem, we're here because republicans won't play ball. >> well, i mean, it's easy for me to s
if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids...
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. >>> we are just weeks away from the so-called fiscal cliff, the $500 billion in automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will take effect at the beginning of 2013. many hurdles facing negotiators, entitlements, tax cuts and the defense budget. is there room for compromise to avoid a cliffhanger? joining me now, this is my favorite segment of the day, felicia, fresh off the campaign train covering paul ryan and paul cain who knows more than any human being about congress. well, with that intro, paul, don't disappoint me. >> is that an insult? >> no, i meant it as the highest form of compliment. you are talking to a political nerd. i feel like despite the fact we talk about the fiscal cliff all the time there's a level of misunderstanding this panic. it's not that simple. can you explain it in layman's terms? >> sure. . >> pretend you are talking to me. >> all of the tax hikes that are set to kick in on january 1, all the automatic spending cuts set to kick in on january 1, that's what we're trying to beat. we're trying to beat that deadline before all of those things kick in. but t
. >>> we are just weeks away from the so-called fiscal cliff, the $500 billion in automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will take effect at the beginning of 2013. many hurdles facing negotiators, entitlements, tax cuts and the defense budget. is there room for compromise to avoid a cliffhanger? joining me now, this is my favorite segment of the day, felicia, fresh off the campaign train covering paul ryan and paul cain who knows more than any human being about congress. well, with...
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they say obviously the end of the year there's a pressure point with the fiscal cliff. they see the next pressure point being february with the debt limit to try to get some serious spending cuts and go after the big three entitlements to get what they want which is to lower deficit through spending cuts. >> let's go to mcconnell. he's not a popular guy anywhere. least of all right here. but let me ask you this. is he stupid? he's not a stupid man. why would he say he would stop the government, have us risk another lowered credit rating in order to cut programs which are essential to so many people like social security and medicare? >> to throw the debt ceiling thing out there might be popular among some republican office holders in the city. i don't think it's really popular beyond that. what he said is a complete misrepresentation because after all raising the debt ceiling is to pay for what congress has already authorized. pay the bills that congress has already incurred. i don't think this is a fight you really want to have with president obama. he -- as a point of
they say obviously the end of the year there's a pressure point with the fiscal cliff. they see the next pressure point being february with the debt limit to try to get some serious spending cuts and go after the big three entitlements to get what they want which is to lower deficit through spending cuts. >> let's go to mcconnell. he's not a popular guy anywhere. least of all right here. but let me ask you this. is he stupid? he's not a stupid man. why would he say he would stop the...
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what we're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of congressional failure around this issue. >> well, let's talk about what exactly is likely to happen or is the threat of what will happen. talk about the pentagon. talk about federal workers. talk about obviously the unemploy unemployed whose benefits are going away. >> absolutely. the biggest -- the most dangerous thing, the fiscal cliff is the unemployment insurance. if we go over for a month we can sort of trick everything else. we can -- the irs can do some tricks to make it so you don't feel tax increases quickly. we can do tricks to make it so we don't lay off people at pentagon, we can furlough th
what we're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of...
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the fiscal cliff is a name that the media came up with, but some of us have been saying for years, you have got to stop the out of control federal spending or you will end up at this point, we're there. >> i just want to the remind folks of something you said about the middle class tax cuts, i just want to the play that. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000, we should just take them out of the discussion right now. >> he has his idea, i don't want to raise taxes on anybody. >> it seems to me now this is the split inside the republican caucus -- >> i don't think so. i think there's more discussion about tactics than it is any different. none of us want to raise the rates on anybody, but the rates on everybody go up at the end of the month. since we degree with the democrats on 98% of the american people, to me, i would just get that off the table now so they don't worry about it. i the those people are the president's leverage. it's the democrats going around screaming your taxes will go up if republicans don't agree, let
the fiscal cliff is a name that the media came up with, but some of us have been saying for years, you have got to stop the out of control federal spending or you will end up at this point, we're there. >> i just want to the remind folks of something you said about the middle class tax cuts, i just want to the play that. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000, we should just take them out of the discussion right now....
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at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax cut, the unemployment insurance, the sequester, all that, that would still be expiring. so come early next year, the economy would likely be entering an austerity-induced recession. markets would be convulsing as they realize our austerity crisis is about to become also a default crisis. and so the economy, as a whole, is going to be going nuts. poll after poll already shows republicans are receiving more blame for the potential failure of the debt talks. and after telling the press they're going to make a strategic decision to use a debt ceiling as more and more dangerous leverage, they're likely going to get blamed for that, too. and that will be much worse in the polls. republicans may believe the wh
at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax cut, the unemployment insurance, the sequester, all that, that would still be expiring. so come early next year, the economy would likely be...
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if they can cut a deal, this in averting this fiscal cliff this january, this could be the start of something big. that's "hardball" for now. thank you for being with us "the ed show" with ed shultz starts right now. >>> this is the ed show, let's get to work. >>> america, i believe we can build on the progress we have made and continue to fight for new jobs and new opportunity and new security for the middle class. >> the president is promising a fight. but republicans in congress won't go down easy. tonight bernie sanders is here to remind the president that he has the upper hand. >>> the citizens united disaster continues to unfold for republicans. the biggest loser is losing control. >> but the president has a real -- he succeeded intel pressing the vote. >> sherrod brown in ohio, on his massive victory. >>> and righties continue to freak out over the death of traditional america? >> it's not a traditional america anymore. >> eugene robinson weighs in tonight. >> and with us tonight, folks, thanks for watching. the obama campaign has just released video of the president addressing his sta
if they can cut a deal, this in averting this fiscal cliff this january, this could be the start of something big. that's "hardball" for now. thank you for being with us "the ed show" with ed shultz starts right now. >>> this is the ed show, let's get to work. >>> america, i believe we can build on the progress we have made and continue to fight for new jobs and new opportunity and new security for the middle class. >> the president is promising a...
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they knew the fiscal cliff was coming. 12 years' notice we had these bush tax cuts were going to expire. these kind of discussions require air they require time they require debate and we are now having them. when john thune says he hopes that senator reid brings a bill to the floor and it is open to discussion and amendment, not today. not today. it's too late for that. make a deal and stop markets from going over the edge, stop this economy from going over the edge. they will ruin a good economy, martin this is ridiculous, irresponsible, disgusting behavior. >> you don't want to hear this kind of detailed conversation going on now? >> no. no. >> you want to get a deal done? >> forget t no more details. no more details. you had 550 dies come one details. today is not the day. today's only job is to come up with a deal that ainvestigators going over the fiscal cliff and anything other than that is absolute irresponsibility you congressional malpractice. >> any deal? in other words, say some sort of temporary fix or have to be that long-term overhaul? >> i don't think -- at this point, b
they knew the fiscal cliff was coming. 12 years' notice we had these bush tax cuts were going to expire. these kind of discussions require air they require time they require debate and we are now having them. when john thune says he hopes that senator reid brings a bill to the floor and it is open to discussion and amendment, not today. not today. it's too late for that. make a deal and stop markets from going over the edge, stop this economy from going over the edge. they will ruin a good...
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we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on. the night rolls on in some cases. midnight in the u.s. is the big fiscal cliff deadline. there are two fronts we are watching today. capitol hill and wall street. let's see if there's any movement on capitol hill. stock markets moving up because it's a little erratic. dana bash is watching that live for us. dana, last hour you were saying progress is being made. now you've been hearing rumblings on the opposite from the far left. what are you hearing now? >> very interesting. we have been hearing from both sides of the aisle that part of the big issue has been to get over objections from conservative republican
we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on....
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hoffa, if we go off the fiscal cliff, you're prepared to do that. that would hurt a lot of your members. are your members, do you think middle class americans are prepared to go down that road and bare the brunt of a tax increase just because republicans are stubborn? >> no one wants to see that happen, but guess what? this is something that's not going away. they have done this for the last two years. they held hostage every issue from fixing the roads, the reauthorization, unemployment benefits, we can't keep letting them hold us hostage every time we want to do something that's good for the country. it would be very damaging, but i don't think it would last long because the pressure would be so strong they'll have to do the right thing. they are not going to sacrifice their future for the 2% and basically hurt the 98% of the people that would keep the basic changes that they have. >> so you're saying political russian roulette, bring it on. you think the democrats are in a solid position now and that will hold with the american people. that's int
hoffa, if we go off the fiscal cliff, you're prepared to do that. that would hurt a lot of your members. are your members, do you think middle class americans are prepared to go down that road and bare the brunt of a tax increase just because republicans are stubborn? >> no one wants to see that happen, but guess what? this is something that's not going away. they have done this for the last two years. they held hostage every issue from fixing the roads, the reauthorization, unemployment...
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i do think there will be a bit of a fight over the fiscal cliff. of course, it involves taxes and spending cuts. you're always going to have a back and forth when you have big issues like that. i don't think you're going to see the big crisis that we saw oi over the debt ceiling debate during the summer of 2011. >> kristen we wilker, thanks so much. we appreciate it. let's look at the fiscal cliff looming over their heads, with either party truly compromising, or will america go off the cliff in an all out stalemate. joining me is nbc's policy analyst and washington post columnist ezra klein. let's get into this. part of the sticking point are the bush-era tax cuts. the president drew a line in the sand and said no extension for those making more than $250,000. is this a game of chicken, and if so, who's going to blink first? >> it is a game of chicken. the fiscal cliff, i always like to call it the fiscal collision. you're dealing with two competing priorities. a lot of people say they want deficit reduction, but if you really get to the bottom of
i do think there will be a bit of a fight over the fiscal cliff. of course, it involves taxes and spending cuts. you're always going to have a back and forth when you have big issues like that. i don't think you're going to see the big crisis that we saw oi over the debt ceiling debate during the summer of 2011. >> kristen we wilker, thanks so much. we appreciate it. let's look at the fiscal cliff looming over their heads, with either party truly compromising, or will america go off the...
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today the president will layout his marker for negotiations on the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in at the end of the year if nothing is done. a midnight december 30th, the bush tax rates will expire, the alternative minimum tax kicks in. more than half of married couples with two children will owe an additional $4,000 in taxes a year. and the 2011 temporary payroll tax cut expires, meaning a 2% tax increase for most workers. if nothing is done, $984 billion in defense and non-defense cuts that congress agreed to, which is referred to as so-called sequester in washington's beat, that will go into effect. emergency unemployment benefits also be expire. during the campaign the president laid down a line in the sand on the bush tax cuts. >> will you veto any legislation that extends all of the bush tax cuts, even to what you call the wealthy? >> yes. the reason is we can't afford it. it will cost us a trillion dlz. >> last night john boehner laid out his opening offer. >> i've made it clear to the president and i think i
today the president will layout his marker for negotiations on the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in at the end of the year if nothing is done. a midnight december 30th, the bush tax rates will expire, the alternative minimum tax kicks in. more than half of married couples with two children will owe an additional $4,000 in taxes a year. and the 2011 temporary payroll tax cut expires, meaning a 2% tax increase for most workers. if nothing is done,...
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the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package and if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration has been clear they will not sign anything. even to get past december 31st. so do you think they can hold firm on that if republicans offer them a package that doesn't include the debt ceiling? >> this is where i think the tension is now arising, which is even if you have some agreement over the tax rates which will jam the republicans a bit, can you jam them on the debt limit also, the concern will be an administration overstepping or overream reaching and trying to jam in the kinds being discussed now. i'm all in favor of getting rid of the debt limit. it makes no sense from a technical perspective. but it's probably a bridge too far to attempt that right now. the question really will become without any more significant entitlement reform a
the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package and if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration has been clear they will not sign anything. even to get past december 31st. so do you think they can hold firm on that if republicans offer them a package that...
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in terms of the tax cut, the fiscal cliff approaching, looming now, which everyone agrees would be a catastrophe if we were to go over it, there's still a lot of brinksmanship going on. the president said proposal from republicans to raise revenue without raising tax rates on the wealthy, which president again insisted on today, the president says the math simply does not work. he said that is not a red line, per se. if they can come back to me and show me how we can raise the revenue one way or another and get the wealthy to pay their fair share, he's keeping an open mind to that. so, the president on the one hand setting down a firm line, as he has before, about having that rate rise from 35%, where it's been for the last ten years, to 39.6%, where it is due to go for the top 2% of earners in this country, those making over $250,000. on the other hand, he's also talking a lot about compromise. we'll see how it works out on friday. one gets the point the two sides have been staking out their positions leading up to that meeting. >> indeed, they have. union leaders were bouyant yeste
in terms of the tax cut, the fiscal cliff approaching, looming now, which everyone agrees would be a catastrophe if we were to go over it, there's still a lot of brinksmanship going on. the president said proposal from republicans to raise revenue without raising tax rates on the wealthy, which president again insisted on today, the president says the math simply does not work. he said that is not a red line, per se. if they can come back to me and show me how we can raise the revenue one way...
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just weeks away from now looms the so-called fiscal cliff, combination of automatic spending cuts and tax increases, mandated by law. within months of the fiscal cliff, congress will be asked to raise the nation's debt ceiling. around the same time, legislation will be needed to keep the government running as a continuing resolution underwhich we're currently operating expires. amid all of the short-term hurdles we face the greatest challenge of all, a massive debt that is smothering growth and exceeding the entire size of our economy. there will be many who will say that with the election over, we should confront the first of these challenges by simply letting the top two tax rates expire and pushing the sequester off to some other date. they would have us engaged in the same short-term temporary policies that have helped put us into this fix. and in essence they're saying let's have more of the same. let's agree to drive our economy off part of the fiscal cliff instead of driving it off the whole fiscal cliff and we'll call it a day. that might get us out of town, but it won't get u
just weeks away from now looms the so-called fiscal cliff, combination of automatic spending cuts and tax increases, mandated by law. within months of the fiscal cliff, congress will be asked to raise the nation's debt ceiling. around the same time, legislation will be needed to keep the government running as a continuing resolution underwhich we're currently operating expires. amid all of the short-term hurdles we face the greatest challenge of all, a massive debt that is smothering growth and...
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in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the president gets a deal on rates, republicans are going to be less inclined to go along with some of the other things, like extended unemployment insurance and some sort of extension perhaps in different form of the payroll tax cut. but also to avoid the sequestration, the congress has got to find some way to have cuts in the interim. if they kick the can down the road they have to have month by month cuts. the farm bill, talking $10 billion a month to in effect buy off the sequestration while they negotiate, the farm bill if you take the senate bill, $23 billion in subsidies cut overall, $4 billion as mentioned fro
in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the...
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cliff, all those horrible cuts that could plunge us into a depression and all the rest that no democrats want either. so are you serious, you really -- are you really saying what i think you're saying, that is that it might be a strategy that the president really wants? wants us all to go over the cliff? and then just blame you? >> yeah. that i think that's to his political advantage to do that, because then he gets to blame us, set up the 2014 elections by us being the bad guys. but look at this. a lot of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle like the $600 billion hit to the defense department, and they'll absorb the 2% of cuts to the other programs out there. and remember, none of the cuts that are in the sequestration have to do with the big three on the entitlement programs. most of us would love to see an erskine bowles type of solution put on the table here. >> so what if there were -- >> the simpson/bowles, sorry. >> simpson/bowles, i understood what you mean. there is an erskine bowles as well. what about congressman tom coley, your colleague, and his overture that you wou
cliff, all those horrible cuts that could plunge us into a depression and all the rest that no democrats want either. so are you serious, you really -- are you really saying what i think you're saying, that is that it might be a strategy that the president really wants? wants us all to go over the cliff? and then just blame you? >> yeah. that i think that's to his political advantage to do that, because then he gets to blame us, set up the 2014 elections by us being the bad guys. but look...
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there's no deal yet to prevent the country from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. income tax rates rise on everybody, also going up, payroll taxes, capital gains, dividends, estate and gift taxes. 27 million more people paying the alternative tax. $110 billion in spending cuts going in to effect, unextended unemployment benefits expiring and payments to medicare go down. what does your gut tell you? are you worried about what will happen tonight? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. >>> and take a look at what the "news nation" is saying about yesterday's "gut check." do democrats and republicans want to go off the cliff? 31% said, yes. 69% said, no. >>> that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm t.j. holmes in for tamron hall. "the cycle" is up next but first look at the holiday wishes from all the people here at msnbc. we're working hard behind the scenes to make sure you get the news every day. >> happy holidays from "the daily rundown." >> happy holidays. >> and have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays. >> happy holidays. ♪ >> happy new year f
there's no deal yet to prevent the country from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. income tax rates rise on everybody, also going up, payroll taxes, capital gains, dividends, estate and gift taxes. 27 million more people paying the alternative tax. $110 billion in spending cuts going in to effect, unextended unemployment benefits expiring and payments to medicare go down. what does your gut tell you? are you worried about what will happen tonight? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote....
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in the fiscal cliff could slow economic growth by a half a percentage point and send unemployment up to 9.1% over the course of 2013. the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the st
in the fiscal cliff could slow economic growth by a half a percentage point and send unemployment up to 9.1% over the course of 2013. the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the...
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but the other thing about the fiscal cliff is you don't want to be blamed for going over it. it is going to be bad for the economy. it's bad for the country. what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time, between
but the other thing about the fiscal cliff is you don't want to be blamed for going over it. it is going to be bad for the economy. it's bad for the country. what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass...
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teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff now with nine days left to cut a deal. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner, his plan b went bust. before leaving town president obama urged congress to pass a mini-plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. the president is now in his native hawaii for a quick christmas break. briana keiller joins us from honolulu. hello, briana. is this fiscal cliff deadline getting closer, what do we think will happen as the holidays rolls out here? >> reporter: well, there's one sort of last ditch effort possibility here, don, and that is when the senate reconvenes on the 27th, it's possible that either they could try to pass something and sort of force it on the house or it's possible that they could take a bill that they've already passed back in july with the threshold of those tax hikes being at the $250,000 level and that they could kind of say to the house, okay, now the ball is in your court. you have to deal with this, but it's still very much a possibility, don, that this doesn't work out, that
teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff now with nine days left to cut a deal. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner, his plan b went bust. before leaving town president obama urged congress to pass a mini-plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. the president is now in his native hawaii for a quick christmas break. briana keiller joins us from honolulu. hello, briana. is this fiscal cliff deadline getting closer, what do we think will happen as the holidays...
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so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to a yes as opposed to agreeing to a no. that's where they don't want to take the heat. >> richard wolf, always good to see you, my friend. thanks. >> thanks, chris. >> the real victims of the fight will not necessarily be republicans or democrats, of course. it's going to be the american people. we talked to bernie sanders about those 2.1 million people on unemployment. we'll look at what going over the fiscal cliff will actually mean to you. our special coverage continues in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. >>> welcome back to msnbc's c
so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to a yes as opposed to agreeing to a no. that's where they don't want to take the heat. >> richard wolf, always good to see you, my friend. thanks. >> thanks, chris. >> the real victims...